Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

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Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby bronzie » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:53 am

Guys these are 2 items that i have never owned / used before. So no idea what the requirements of these particular reels are except to hold line and enable accurate long casts to be achieved. Am i missing something?
I have acquired 2 Greys Rods ( i know tackle tart!! :lol: :lol: ) for these functions now i need to purchase suitable reels.
For fishing initially i`m using 10000 XTE but for the marker & Spod do i go big pit or buy more 10000`s or 8000 or ??????
Your input on this one would be very much appreciated, cos i have no idea what direction to go in.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby alynponty » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:12 pm

i would also be interested to know about this as i have never spodded before, but the lake i have joined is very weedy so was thinking of spodding to an area out of the way of the usual spots people fish and hopefully letting the carp clear me a spot to fish to, i haven't got a spod rod but was thinking of using an old beachcaster of mine for now until i can afford a dedicated spod rod, but am stumped for which reel to go for i have seen at erics angling a mitchell avocet reel for £25 would this be suitable for now, thanks, alyn.
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Re: Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby Kevin HAGUE » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:10 pm

Like yourselves im gonna be using a marker and spod more often than i am at the moment, well only when i need to. I have purchased the wychwood marker and spod rods at £69 each and have opted to use an almost exact same reel as on my fishing rods. I'm using shimano biomasters 8000 XSA's and gonna use the biomaster 8000 XTA's for my spod and marker rods, there exactly the same reel but the clutch system is slightly different and thats the only difference as far as im aware. The biomasters are a big pit and cast really well and im not exactly the greatest of long range caster.
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Re: Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby rig-shy » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:36 pm

Hi Guys I do a lot of marker work and spodding and actually have a pair of Shimano long cast big pit baitrunners for the job, now you dont need to go to that kind of expense but you do need to purchase reels that have the right combination of cranking power for when you need to retrieve a large spod from a hundred yard plus with the line lay and casting capacity to cast a marker float or spod as far as you can cast a baited rig or you will limit the effectiveness of what your attempting to do.

There are several good quality and reasonably priced reels made by Shimano such as the Biomaster , Navi and Ultegras and Diawa have a dedicated Spod Reel but any of the lower priced emblems will also do the job.

For my marker set up I prefer to use 20lb Braid with a mono shock leader , I find the mono leader slides through the swivel better than braid and is less prone to tangling than using braid straight through , it can be very frustrating to locate what feels like a very attractive spot to then not be able to check the depth or raise the marker because the braid has twisted upon the cast, Korda do a great marker kit set up that supplies all you need, you may need to switch to larger or more buoyant floats if fishing in amongst weed as it can restrict the movement of the float as it rises so using a quick change swivel makes life a lot easier.

For my spod I use the opposite preferring to use a cheap but tough low diameter mono line such as 10lb diawa sensor with a 35lb braided leader , this helps to take the strain when launching 8-12 oz of loaded spod but with the aid of a big pit sized spool the line will cast beautifully.

Its important to wear a protective finger guard when using any kind of braided line ,being much thinner than mono with virtually no stretch its very easy for the braid to cut into your finger when casting , you can buy these at most tackleshops , I prefer the glove version made by gardner tackle.Its also important to make sure your leader knots are placed at the back of the spool before casting , if not when you cast the actual knot can snag the coils as they come off on the cast reducing your casting range or even cause it to tangle , and you dont want to be attempting to lauch 1/2 lb of loaded spod to the horizon and the line gets wrapped up around the rod because something will definitely go bang. :shock: :shock:

The idea of baiting an area within the weed is a great one and works really well , I find using smaller baits such as particles and pellets mixed with denser baits such as boilies means the baits settle at different levels on the weed , the lighter stuff nearer the top and the denser baits nearer the bottom meaning the fish and bird life have to really rip into the weed to get every morsel clearer the spot much quicker than using just one type of bait.

Also good to remember that just because you have a spod and marker that you dont need to always use it , by all means have them at the ready but weigh up the conditions and fish activity in front of you before you start lobbing dirty great spods or marker floats out , I often prefer to cast with just a lead to feel the bottom then once Ive found a nice spot mark the line,attach a fresh rig and drop it on the spot with the minimum of disturbance rather than bombarding the swim with a full marker set up , the same applies to spodding , you cant take it back out again once you have cast it in so again less is sometimes more ;)

Hope that helps answers your questions , this is quite a large topic but I hope I have at least covered the basics and pointed you in the right direction.
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Re: Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby cal35 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:57 pm

the diawa spod reel is a class reel- the big difference is the rate that you can get a spod back in- it is so much quicker than other reels and just makes the job so much easier!

as for a marker reel i like to have a freespool facitlity so you arent constantly tightening and loosening the clutch to guage the depth which can get annoying if you are thouoghly marking a swim. for this i have a diawa emblem with a freespool convertion.

what rig-shy says about lines is spot on ;)
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Re: Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby tryzard » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:53 pm

I can't add much to the excellent advice already given, but I will say that if you have a limited budget go for the best spod rod and reel you can afford as it will see much more use (and much heavier work) than the marker setup. You can always use your regular carp tackle for marker work until you can afford a dedicated rod.
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Re: Spod Reel & Marker Reel HELP Please

New postby carpernick » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:14 am

I don't use either of these much on my two waters, but have done on another quite frequently visited day ticket water. I own a cheap version of spod rod, and a stepped up carp rod as a marker, coupled with Daiwa Emblems (matching my actual fishing reels).
For most situations these are adequate. But what I will say is after using Tryzard's dedicated 'decent' spod and marker rod set-up's on a competition venue last year; there is certainly a case for 'you get what you pay for', and the difference in ease of use was clearly noticeable.
As I say, I don't use either much, but if it is something you do alot as part of your fishing; then buy the best you can afford in my opinion it's worth it.
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